PACKET RADIO: Notes from the '89 CA Earthquake

Part 1

Steve Wolf, W8IZ@W8IZ


(This text from the W8IZ packet radio bulletin

board. It's formatted to fit a 80 character screen.)


As of today Thursday October 26th , things have started to return to normal
around the San Francisco Bay Area. We have learned a lot about the handling
of emergency information and Health & Welfare traffic via packet radio.
I thought I would try to get down my thoughts about the performance of
packet radio and lessons learned from the recent emergency created by the
earthquake while the impressions are still fresh in my mind.
BACKGROUND: The Northern California Packet Association is comprised of
and extensive network made up of hilltop node locations and over 30 BBS
systems spread from Redding in the far northern part of the state to
Kern County in the central part of the state.
The BBS forwarding system employs a 220 MHz and 433 MHz backbone which
utilizes 5 mountain top sites and 5 LAN Gateway BBSs. The theory is that
each of the 5 LAN BBS systems serve a number of other BBSs on their
LAN. The LANs are: NORTH BAY/ W6PW , SACRAMENTO VALLEY/WA6RDH, SANTA CRUZ/
N6IYA, EAST BAY/ N6VV, and a SOUTH BAY LAN with WB6ASR.
The LAN of which I am part of, connects into the Central Valley Backbone
which runs the length of the Great Central Valley of California from
Southern California to the Oregon Backbone. As a LAN Gateway station, I
am responsible for forwarding to the other LAN Gateway stations and to
the BBSs on my LAN, which includes : W6FGC,WO6Y,KJ6FY,WB6V,K6RAU,N6OA,
WB6ODZ,WB6MIF,N6ECP. In addition since my local node is on the Central
valley backbone I also forward North to AL7IN in Oregon and south to
K6IYK in Los Angeles.
The Central Valley 220 Backbone is one of 2 trunks to the south. The
other is down the Coast Route from WB6ASR and AA4RE.
Recognizing the need for redundancy in the network, a number of backup
routes have been created and we have had to use these many times in the
past. For example last year, during the heavy fire season, a fire on
Mt VACA took out the Sacramento Valley LAN Backbone node WA6RDH-11.
To maintain communications Dennis, WA6RDH had added a 223.54 port on his
BBS to be able to communicate directly with N6VV on the East Bay LAN
frequency and to be able to pass Inter-LAN traffic without going thru
the backbone.
In addition, when selecting 2 meter nodes, considerable planning went into
choosing frequencies to provide alternate paths in the event of the loss
of the backbone. Most of the nodes in use in this area are triple or
quad port nodes and include 2M access into the network. Strategic selection
of 2M frequencies has given us the backup which was put to good use
during the emergency. More on this later.
N6VV BBS: The N6VV BBS is a 6 port system operating on the following
frequencies:
       144.99
       223.54
       433.41
       441.50
       14.109
       21.097
I operate on 2 HF frequencies and provide in addition to N6IYA (14098),
N6OA (14107), KB6IRS (14107), N6EEG (10149) the HF Gateway access to
the Northern California area.
The system is a 2M IBM PC/AT with 20Meg hard drive. On normal months
I handle between 9 and 13,000 messages per month.
BBS forwarding access into our area is therefore via one of the HF Gateway
stations listed above or via the 2 southbound 220 links into Los Angeles
and the single 220/433 link north to Oregon.
TUESDAY the 17th of October -
Like everyone else around here, I spent a considerable amount of time
on that Tuesday trying to get tickets to the World Series but by 3:00
PM had decided that I was going to have to content myself with watching
the series on television that evening. At about 4:30, me and most of the
rest of the office started to migrate towards the exits in order to make
it home in time for the TV coverage of the series which was scheduled to
start at 5:00 PM local time.
Incidentally, everyone around here is convinced that the World Series
saved litteraly hundreds of lives at places like the Cypress Structure on
Highway 880 since many thousands of people around the bay, were doing
exactly what we were doing and trying to make it home before 5:00 PM to
watch the game. I have driven the 880 stretch that collapsed many times
and at 5:00 PM during the height of rush hour there would normally have
been hundreds of cars jammed into that 12 block section which collapsed.
I work in Concord only 3 miles from my home in Pleasant Hill so arrived
home about 4:45 and walked out to the shack located about 100 feet behind
my house, to "check the BBS", as is my usual habit when coming home.

I was browsing thru the messages going and coming on the system, when
suddenly shortly after 5:00 PM my chair started to bounce up and down.
At first I thought it was just one of the many little earthquakes that
any native Californian has grown accustomed to riding out with little
concern.
Suddenly the motion began to get much more violent and things began flying
around the shack. A large bookcase to my left fell over and spilled
hundreds of books and QSTs across the floor. Loud noises from stuff falling
over in my storage area behind the shack convinced me it was time to get
out of the building. I dashed for the door and stood just outside the
shack looking up at my tower. My main concern at this moment was the
tower immediately over my head. The Rohn 45 tower had a 6 element
KLM 20M beam and a 4 element KLM 40M beam at 85 feet. The Phillistrand
guy wires were alternately snapping and going slack and the beams were
jiggling wildly.
I decided it was probably prudent to try to get at least 85 feet away from
the immediate area. Dashing thru my back yard to scoop up my 8 year old
son we went to the front yard and watched the trees and telephone poles
waving wildly in the air. I live on a small knoll and have an excellent
view out across the Diablo Valley. For another 10 seconds we stood
watching the eerie sight as the whole valley jiggled and shook.
For about 30 seconds we stood there affraid to move. After checking with
the rest of the family to see that they were all safe, I ran back to
shack to see if it was OK. The power was off and sirens were already
screeming all over the area. My neighbors were all out in the streets and
some people had their car radios on listening to the first reports. The
first serious damage reports were coming in and I heard that part of the
Bay Bridge had collapsed.
My first thought was power. I got out my generator and started
setting up on the road next to my shack. My neighbors came over and helped
me with the gasoline. I started the generator and let it run for a while
to settle down. I got out my hand held and began to monitor the 2M repeater
in our area. There was a lot of conversation on the air as the hams began
to check in. This was a good sign since the repeater is co-located with
the nodes that I use for forwarding. It is at a County site which has
emergency power so I had assumed that it would be on the air.


In a few minutes I had the VHF/UHF side of the BBS going. Another ham,
WA6HAM Steve was bringing over another generator to get the HF station
going. The first step was to find out what nodes and BBSs were on the
air. I began working my way thru the network to find out who was there.
To my horror, W6PW in San Francisco did not respond. In addition the
Southbay LAN Backbone node on Crystal peak did not seem to be on. N6IYA
the Santa Cruz LAN Gateway was not there. I started to get worried but
was hopefull that it was just power that prevented them from being on
the air. The SAC Valley stations including WA6RDH were up and the
central valley guys and circuits all seemed to be OK.
Without hearing any real news reports I began to assume that the
worst areas were San Francsico and particularly the Santa Cruz and
Gilroy areas. It turned out that I was right. I began working my way
thru the Santa Cruz BBSs who I do not normally forward to because of
our LAN Gateway structure when suddenly I got a connect with N6MPW.
At least one BBS in that area was on. I started receiving messages from
the other SysOps who were doing the same thing I was. We spent the
first hour or two trying to put our network back togeather. WD6CMU from
the Northbay LAN sent around a message saying he was taking over Gateway
duties for the Northbay LAN. N6MPW took over gateway duties for the
Santa Cruz LAN. That meant 4 of the 5 LANs were covered, but we still
had no word from Roy AA4RE or Greg WB6ASR from the Southbay LAN. We
later learned that the Crystal nodes had received severe damage since
they were so close to the epicenter.
I contacted Brad WA6AEO who is the control SysOp for most of our nodes
in Contra Costa County and suggested that we put some of our emergency
plans into place. We had already set up one node in the south part of
the county on 144.93 which was WB6ASRs user port frequency frequency but
I could not raise Greg on that port. We were able to move our Berkeley
node on BALD to 144.99 which is the user port frequency of both W6PW
and AA4RE. This would provide an alternate path for Roy into the network
while his 220 access was down.
The channel selection of 2 meter nodes and the frequency agility proved
to be vital in reestablishing paths to these locations since Roy has
returned to the air and at this time is still using the the BALD 144.99
node as his access to the network.

That was the first lesson learned. HAVE SOME BACKUP PLANS for alternate
paths when backbone nodes go away !! In our case it worked and all 5
LANs were back on the air within hours of the quake.
I had started to compile a list of BBSs that were on and began to modify
my forward files to get traffic to the right general area. Thankfully
N6LDL was reachable on the 2M Norhtbay port of 144.97 and I set him up
to recieve all San Jose, Los Gatos ZIPs. CMU was taking all the NORTHBAY
LAN ZIPS. and N6MPW was taking Santa Cruz. One thing I learned during
this rework of the forward files was that I would have been better off
to have had independent files set up BY BBS instead of by LAN as it was
a painstaking process rekeying all of the ZIP information. In that way
I could have just moved my files around by BBS to reflect the crazy 2M
forwarding patterns which evolved during the emergency.
By this time the other generator had arrived and I was now up on
20 Meters on the 14109 NET. It was getting fairly late and I just had
enough time to fire off a message to Dave W9ZRX that I was on before
the band closed up. Sometime around this time K6IYK in Los Angeles
connected to me and told me that the Coast route was gone but that
the central valley 220 route had survived and to expect lots of NTS
traffic. I gave him a brief rundown on the situation and told him that
we were ready.
By now traffic was starting to flow all around the network and Health
and Welfare stuff was starting to come in from AL7IN in Oregon and
K6IYK in Los Angeles. We sent out bulletins calling for a halt to ALL
non essential bulletins on the network and I composed messages for the
HF Networks requesting the same thing.
Listening to the 2M and UHF repeaters into the Santa Cruz area it became
apparent that the voice circuits were a zoo and that if any H&W traffic
was going to make it into that area it was going to have to be on packet.
The surviving repeaters were all tied up with tactical information
and most of the net control stations did not want to hear about Health
and Welfare traffic. Actual fights broke out on some of the repeaters
over the handling of H&W traffic and I was very pleased when I started
to hear people on the repeaters tell people "PUT IT ON PACKET". We had
let them know that we had established routes into all the affected areas
and we started to see traffic coming in from the outlying areas who
seemed to be taking H&W traffic off of the 20M nets and dumping it onto
the local BBS system.
From my own experience I can tell you that phone service into the 408
area code was very spotty and some areas in the southbay were not available.
HF SSB stations taking traffic for these areas had no way to deliver the
traffic and most ended up just dumping the traffic into the local
BBS system anyway. 415 was not bad after about 12 hours and was returning
within 24 to many areas but I tried all nite to reach the Santa Cruz BBSs
by phone and could not get thru. All during this period I was forwarding
packet traffic for hours on end to N6MPW in Santa Cruz !!
By 4AM in the morning I realized that I would have to also modify my
outbound forward files and adopted the theory that I should just try
to get it out of here to anybody so made heavy modifications to my
forward files to get as much traffic to W9ZRX and W3IWI who are usually
my best connects on 20 and 15 meters.
As the sun came up and the HF bands started to come alive the traffic
began to pore in. ZRX connected to me and had a 2 hour forwarding session.
The inbound volumes were unbelievable. At some times I had W9ZRX on 20M,
W3IWI on 15M, K6IYK from So. Cal on the 220 port, AL7IN from Oregon on
the 433 port all forwarding to me at the same time. I only had 2 outbound
ports to try to handle the 4 inbound ports which never stopped. I called
for help and remote SysOps  Brad WA6AEO and Dennis KA6FUB came over to
the station and for the next 48 hours the BBS here was fully manned around
the clock. We never went thru a normal forwarding cycle but had to use
force forwards to try to stay up with the imbalance in inbound/outbound
taffic. The number of messages on the board kept increasing since we could
not keep up with it. I believe that the peak came on Wednesday nite with
a total of about 800 active messages on the system. I had many hours before
deleted all my bulletins so all of these messages were NTS.
By the weekend we had handled over 5000 messages which had mostly been
forwarded on into the Santa Cruz and Bay Areas. We had recruited a core
of local hams to check in and handle the NTS destined for our area but
even that was getting out of control. I was actually outside the seriously
affected area and had power and phones back by the end of the first night,
so I could imagine that the guys like MPW and PW were really starting to
get jammed up.

I started to receive messages from several SysOps that they wanted me
to stop sending them traffic and one night got a call from
Larry WB9LOZ, SysOp at W6PW that he already had 700 NTS messages backed
up and could I just stop for a while. I explained to him that the message
flow was like a freight train and that we could not just stop at certain
points but would have to stop the whole flow.  If I stopped forwarding out
to the destination BBSs, I would have thousands of messages here and
ultimately blow up. We would have to shut it off farther back stream or
just shut down the gateways.
We tried to contact KA6ETB the NCN Packet coordinator to see if we should
send out a national bulletin asking everyone to please slow down the
H&W and eventually one was originated. I knew that it would take several
days for an @USA bulletin to make it around sufficently to have any
effect so we had no alternative but to keep on forwarding.
We need to think more about this flood problem and figure out a better
solution. I am sure we will be discussing it heavily in the future but
we did the best we could in the first 3 days after the quake.
One important lesson learned here in the SF area is that packet turned
out to be the most efficient means of delivering H&W traffic and while
I have not heard the numbers from other gateway stations, I am now over
6000 pieces of traffic since the quake and I am sure the total will be
in excess of 10,000 messages handled via packet. This is quite impressive
since this is a tremendous increase in normal packet traffic and the
software, systems, network and operators were able to respond wonderfully
to this flood of traffic.
I have heard horror stories from the guys who were handling H&W on the
HF SSB Bands about jamming and poor organization. I am happy to tell you
that other than the normal RTTY Jammers on 21097 (They don't like us there)
we were able to move tremendous volumes of messages on HF Packet.

LESSON LEARNED :
 1. You need to have a backup Plan. I list this one first because
    we had a plan of sorts but had to make a lot of it up as we went.
 2. Packet is wonderfully adapted to handling very high volumes of
    Health and Welfare traffic during emergencies, but probably shouldn't
    be used for tactical information handling. Voice circuits are better
    and the packet channels get jammed up with H&W anyway...
 3. Because of networking possibilities, packet networks can respond
    better than any other form of Ham Communications to changes in
    the emergency situations. We completely rerouted traffic throughout
    the entire system in less than 3 hours...
 4. We need a quiker way to handle network management bulletins. Maybe
    we need an emergency bulletin designator that EVERYONE supports,
    but is not used except under extreme emergency.
 5. Every ham who uses a packet bulletin board should become familiar
    with packet NTS procedures. Under circumstances like this you
    have to get anyone with a TNC involved to handle the traffic. The
    vast majority of traffic handled locally at N6VV was NOT handled
    by our normal NTS liason people. We were recruiting people off the
    2 meter repeaters to help. Fortunately we had a file called
    HOWTO.NTS in the file section that these people were able to download
    and read. Instant NTS handlers !! Many of the regular NTS people
    were working 24 hours a day in Red Cross facilities or emergency
    centers and never did check in to a BBS. Even with the thousands
    of hams in this area, we did not seem to have enough to go around.
    The emergency sites were recruiting hams from as far away as
    Sacramento to man sites in Santa Cruz.

 6. A major problem we had on this end was the missadressed or non-addressed
    traffic that required manual intervention before it would flow
    thru the automated forwarding system. I only had 3 hours sleep by
    Friday night and the main reason was fixing this mail. Mail simply
    addressed NTSCA @ NTSCA with no further information was being
    received here. Each message like this required us to read them
    and in some cases to have a USPS ZIP code book lookup to get them
    on their way. When you are dealing with thousands of messages this
    can be a tedious job. I actually received personal mail addressed
    N6VV @ N6VV with a list of 25 friends they wanted me to contact.
    These BOOK type messages simply DO NOT WORK in the packet environment
    and require far too much manual intervention at the disaster site.
    All NTS traffic here and I thought elsewhere was ZIP code routed.
    personal mail is routed by BBS and ZIP code does not work for it
    but the NTS ZIP delivery system is well established and each NCPA
    BBS is provided with a complete list of zip codes for all of
    northern California and where they are supposed to be delivered.
    Messages received without ZIP code, die until manual intervention.
These are just some of the lessons which we have learned. I am sure many
more will be thought of in our afteraction meetings.
In summary I think that the San Francisco Earthquake was the first great
test for this new technology which we call packet and although I'm sure
we will be able to find some faults, in general packet performed wondefully
under what at times seemed like an impossible situation. My thanks to
all the SysOps around the country who helped...
Lew N6VV
p.s. An interesting sidebar. All of these thousand of messages that were
delivered were transmitted on 220.90 MHz. I can only hope that UPS will
be able to utilize that frequency as effectively as we hams did during the
Quake of '89
From    : WB9LOZ @ W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
To      : NI6A.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Date    : 900610/0943
Msgid   : PY 3248@W6PW, 764@W6CUS $3248_W6PW
Subject : INFO ON H&W MTG SENT TO ME BY DAVID, AA6RM, SF EC
Path    : W6PW
Larry,
I was able to attend the NCPA H&W traffic meeting.  It was 
felt by all of the EC administrators that what is needed 
most in an emergency packet system is a way to turn off 
bulletins and H&W inquiries coming into an affected area 
and to limit the use of selected systems to emergency 
logistics and outgoing H&W messages.  Incoming H&W 
inquires are inappropriate, especially in the first days 
following a disaster, because they are normally 
undeliverable within the affected area due to inoperable 
telephones and displaced addressees.  Someone affected by 
the disaster would not be at their home but at a shelter 
or other relocation center and relatives and friends would 
not know where the affected person was until they received 
an outgoing message from the individual.  Incoming 
messages addressed to individuals not directly affected by 
the disaster may be deliverable but are of lower priority 
and clog up the system, slowing the passing of priority 
traffic.
We explored some ideas on how this could be done and came 
up with the concept of putting HF gateways and other 
principal BBS's into emergency mode, which would result in 
the automatic rejection of non-emergency traffic and all 
incoming H&W inquiries with an appropriate message or 
prompt to a user attempting to pass other than emergency 
traffic.  The SYSOP would be able to put the BBS into 
emergency mode as needed.  We also identified the need to 
be able to send bulletins out of the affected area, 
providing information about the situation.
We discussed implementing two new send commands, 
identifying the message as either incoming or outgoing 
emergency traffic, outgoing H&W traffic or outgoing status 
reports.  Apparently using the commands SY and SZ for such 
purposes would make it easy for the software writers to 
filter out SB, SP and ST traffic. SZ would be used for the 
highest precedence traffic, such as emergency logistics 
and outgoing H&W traffic, and SY could be used for status 
bulletins.
One way of initiating outgoing H&W welfare traffic is to 
have it all originate at the shelters or other central 
locations within the affected area. (We tried this four 
days into the October earthquake recovery but used voice 
rather than packet.)  Currently the Red Cross uses 
postcards for this purpose, with an expected delivery 
within three days.  Any packet system used for this 
purpose would have to achieve an equal or better delivery 
rate.  Evidently there is software available that can 
preformat H&W messages, so that all that has to be entered 
is the identifying info on the sender and the addressee.
I hope this summary is useful to you.  If you have any 
questions please let me know.
Warmest regards,
David
Next? >
From    : NI6A @ W6CUS
To      : NI6A
Date    : 900610/2100
Msgid   : PN 770@W6CUS $770_W6CUS
Subject : tnx for copy
LArry; Appreciate the copy of David's synopse.  I did not expect
to be able to educate any one anymore (I gess I am a poor
communicator) and did not have any high hopes for the meeting,
so didnt attend. I guess things could have been worse. 
Yes, you ae right, w0rli has refused such a scheme, so
it wouldnt matter if the other syysops implemneted it or not,
it would bog down at the first bbs, but... didnt ANYBODY
learn anything during the Earthquake.
It SHOULD be clear that
1) The committee was tasked originally to achieve something on
improving H&W faciliation via packet not killing it.
If it refuses H&W incoming during the first 48 hours then, as
most have observed, H&W incoming past the first 48 hours becomes
even older and even less relevant.  Also the network
congestion caused by letting it come in after 58
hours would be logrythmicly worse than to let it come in
at the begiining.
2) There is no difference between H&W traffic priorities for
inquiries if the addressee is a victim or is not affected. The
inquirer in EITHER case is worried sick, and just needs an
answer.  The facts are that 99%.9 percent of te inquiries
during the earyyhqquake were for unaffected people, yyet the
relief they felt (even though maybe less than 10% were
received before long distance incoming service was restored)
is exactly th same as the relief the inquirer would feel if the
person was at a shelter. That is, the inquirer feels a need
to help and to ascertain Health and welfare status. A mesaage
back saying I am ok, is all that is needed regardless if
they are at a house or a shelter.
All this seems real logical to me, but eiter I 
cant communicate anymore or my brain works
too weirdly for others.  
You know as well as every other sysop, there was no need 
for outbound out of state EMERGENCY type traffic nor
inbound and the chances of it being so is very very low.
It seems rediculous to me to close down the entire packet
network for traffic that will probably never occur. 
Realtime bbs links could be useful for direct connect. kike thecontra
costa county linked bbs system, but we are set up
to be able to fwd with each other directly not via
intermediary BBS fwding. 
Outgpimg H&W trafic is easyy. Just go into a shelter and offer it.
We did in Oakland but tere was no takers. There was little
response in SF as well. Given a larger disaster there
would probably be more takers, but tat is a matter of the
local ARES group or local hams arranging to go into
shelters to offer the service. The BBS system can
take the outgoing as it normally accepts "T" type messages
BUT IT WOULDNT GO ANYWHERE if they limit P, B, AND T in
favor of Z and Y type traffic unless as you say, they
make Y type really T welfare type. 
Oh well, it just upsets me the more I think about it
*-) ... packet could get the inquiries accross the country
if we had guidelines etc. Without it, it will
work the way it worked during the Earthqquake and MOSTLIKELY
there will be very little other traffic to handle.
Experienced ECs should know that te only out of region
radio needs from their local area would be OES region 2 HQ
in Pleasant Hill if they were serving a government agency and/or
their County OES. For Red Cross, it may include also
Western Operations HQ in Burlingame (which n6iiu BBS acts as a gateway).
The BBS at State OES Region 2 is KI6WE BBS and it can be reached 
via n6vv-2. 
State OES in Sacto has requested us to go to Region 2, and
not the Sate OES direct in Sacto. This is official RACES
policy. Granted if OES Region 2 is wiped out, then there
may be a need to talk directlyy to State OES in Sacto, but
if its emergency traffic, it should be done direct, or
at least direct to wa6nwe-1 bbs, I would think.
The only scenario for longer disatance emergency
communications needs, is that of FEMA's plan for VERY
LARGE DISASTERS such as very large earthquakes. Here we
are talking about 100 ties greater than the October Quake.
If it occurred in the SF region, headquarters would be
set up in LA. If it occurred in the LA region, HQ would be 
set up in San Francisco, thus the furtherest
packet links would be about 400 miles. Granted that could
be done via HF GateWays, but if it was emergency traffic, 
It would be best to arrange a direct 40 M or 80 M (evening)
bbs link of which we have none now. The 10, 15, and 20 M
HF GateWays as you know would not be able to handle such
short skip and only n6eeg on 30 M would have a chance.
Oh well, maybe you want to pass a copy of this on to Dave,
or is it just my normal pedantic ravings?  Anyway,
LArry, guess I have gone to too many unproductive meetings
and seen too many plans and hopes squashed to
be as positive as i would have been years ago, about
actually utilizing packet in a functional and
efficient manner during a disaster. Of course
technically there is no problem, the network is there, 
but people wise, there is no plan, no functional 
dedicated, nor educated organization to plan it
or to effect it, but I give those who attended a lot
of credit for spending their time in an honest attempt.
Will probaly be moving in about 10 days and the antennas will
be down then. If I am still around, I could
check in from time to time with te portable, but 
will definitely send some traffic from Oregon. 
I need a long rest by the river.   73,  don
  Msg# TR  Size From   To     @ BBS  Date/Time   Title
 64174 PY  7135 NI6A   NI6A   W6CUS  0611/1326 Thanks
Walter;
I understand about the committee. All you can do as chairman is
to facillitate the meeting and try to guide it as best you
can. Other than that, it would have been dictatorial or "political"
or whatever. In a sense, from what I have head from others
it could have been worse. 
As you have observed before and I agree, if you put a moratorium
on incoming inquiries for te first 48 hours, then you
are ensuring the inquiries to be old and stale when you deliver
them. You also ensure that when the bbs open back up for
NTS inquiries, that the system would be flooded even more
so than if we would let it come in gradually in the beginning.
In other words it would guarantee even a bigger mess and even
less of a timely and valuable service than the
plan we had before the earthquake (which of course wasn't
really a plan at all). Yalk about making some steps backwards...hi.
Of course the above would occur only if there was national
agreement and organization that was capable of putting
"T" type incoming traffic on hold anyway, which at this
time doesnt exist. Also you would have to have the bbs
distinguish between incoming and outgoing "T" tyype traffic
in order to pass the outgoing "T" type and to hod the incoming.
Nothing exists so far for that either.
IN regards to "EMERGENCY" type traffic via packet
bbs, there should be almost zero need to fwd such. The plan
in Contra Costa Countyy is to link the various bbs
directly in direct connections for emergency traffic
that is no emergencyy trafic would be fwded  from one
bbs thru a second bbs to a third bbs, except for
County Wide emergency bulletins. All bbs wouldbe using
AA4re bbs softwae capable of multiple connect on the same freq
and simultaneous fwding on any frequency. 
None of us project a need for long distance EMERGENCY type traffic
except to
OES REGION 2 HQ in pleasant Hill (KI6WE BBS)
which of course is already part of Contra Costas linked nns system.
State RACES policyy is to have all Stae OES traffic from
our area sent to region 2 and not to Sacto.  We are directed
to use SActo only if region 2 is destroyed/disabled. 
Most of the Pacific Division high population areas are within
region 2, hence there may reason for SCV, EBAY, and SF section
BBs to set up a plan how to link with ki6we direct if needed.
Going to Sacto is a bit more complicated, but the hoe bbs for
State RACES is OESSAC or WA6NWE-1 BBS. Which you might
want to make sure can enable you for emergencies if ki6we
fails. This type of planning of course has been relegated to
wa6aeo, the NCXPN Emergency PAcket Coordinator, and he
may have some more mature thoughts about this than I.
Only in a major disaster, will there be a need for 
long distance packet links.  FEMA, for instance, 
has a plan in where a large debilitating earthquake or 
other disaster in the San Francisco Area would be Headquarted
in Los Angeles and likewise a large disaster in LA would be handled
in SF. Such a scenario coud benefit greatly
from packet bbs links direct on HF but only n6eeg
has one on 30 m and that is to w8akf near Santa Barbara. 
20, 15, and 10 m would be too long skip to do statewide
communications, and there ae currentlyy no NORCAL
BBS on 40 or 80 M (although w6pw, w6cus, ke6bx used
to do the SCAL link to KD6SQ and w8AKF on 40M years ago
with very good throughput.  
The point being, there has appearded no need in the
past to do emergencu traffic out of state and there is
very likely not goung to be a need as this is not
in any State, county, or City scenario at this time.
The idea of BBS fwding emergency tyype traffic through
more than one bbs makes me a bit uncomfortable, and I am
not sure what type of emergency traffic some of the
ECs expected during disataers.
These comments are based on a couple of repors that I 
received from what occurred at the H&W/Packet Meeting
on Saturday, June 9; but not being there, of course,
I may have received inaccurate information.  From what
I gathered, it still seesm that the largest challenge is to
educate ECs on what the packet bbs systems are capable of
offering, and for te ECs to communicate to the packet
association (NCXPN) what they need. 
Since WA6AEO is both a packet sysop, a net/rom sysop, 
Chairman of the NCXPN Emergency Comm Committee, and also
a long time ARES/RACES member in Contra Costa County,
I will end a copyy of this to him as well, and maybe 
a meeting covering these topics can be implemented.
Walter, I think you and the H&W Committee served an
important function. It is obvious to both of us, that
packet has allowed us to handle high quantities
of H&W traffic (more so than ever before in the historyy
of Amateur radio) in and out of disaster areas; but it
is still the local interface (For delivery and origination)
that still suffers.  This is not a new problem to
those of us who have struggled with this for many
years, still I think that local delivery is possible
(as shown by the great work at w6pw and wd6cmu bbs during 
the earthquake where close to 4000 messages were delivered).
Obviously, most inquiries will be for those who are unaffected
and who are safe. THIS IS ALWAYS THE CASE, BUT IT DOESNT MEAN THAT
THE INQUIRY IS ANY MORE INVALID. HERE THE SERVICE IS FOR THOSE
RELATIVES AND FRIENDS WHO ARE SUFFERING REAL MENTAL 
ANGUISH.  Their relief is not any different if the person
is alright in a shelter or is alright in their home. The
point is that they are alright and do not need assistance
from the family. Of course, some hams like to put this
service down completely by sayying the inquirer is
some disatnt cousin or uncle twice removed but in my
experience they are MOTHERS AND FATHERS, DAUGHETRS
AND SONS who are worried sick. When that worriedness
extends 3, 4, or more days and the media has reported
casualties ham radio can and has provided a much
valued service to these families, and I am for you
100% in trying to achieve this service as long as
other disaster communications does not suffer, which
I am sure can be achieved; but only so if we have
educated, intelligent, informed, and dedicated hams willing
to implement a plan.  Barring that, it is difficult to
watch....hi.
Anyway, Walter, I hope that te above comments reflect somewhat
on some of the conclusions came to by the committee.  I realize
that you have expended a great effort in this regad and
are to be congratualted. I hope that most of the
participants went home a little more educated
as to packet's potential and perhaps in the future, given
enough information and development, some sort of
practical service could be planned for and implemented in
which families who are separated by commercial
communications blackouts for many days, can communicate
with each other via our system. The point 
of NTS, from the beginning was to be there when the
chips were down for third party communication, but
as you have found out, the NTS leadership really does
not intend that to occur.  I will take the
liberty of sending a copy of this to my SEC, STM, and to
WA6AEO, the NCXPN EMERG. COMM. CHAIR.  Thanks again for the
fine efforts... hope all is well.  73, Don 
CC: KB6TKL - Chairman, NCXPN
             ORIENTATION FOR MESSAGE CENTER RUNNERS
Thanks for volunteering at the Red Cross Message Center!
The message center is a part of the Disaster Communications Center
who attempts to accurately and quickly facilitate communications
between the Red Cross Operations Center and the various shelters,
feeding stations, first aid stations, government agencies, and
other disaster support agencies.
In order to do this accurately and quickly the following points
are offered:
1) The message center manager should orientate all runners.
2) All messages should be legible. Look at it before it's "run".
If it is not readable to you it will not be readable to others.
Ask for legibility improvements before you run it.
3) All messages should have a time (also date is helpful). If a
time is not entered please write it in. This is most helpful.
4) "Most" messages should have a "TO" and "FROM" name, title, and
location. The message center manager should decide whether or not
the message is either "DELIVERABLE" or "ANSWERABLE" according to
the amount of adequate information.
5)  Messages concerning donations goes to  FUNDRAISING.
        "      "       FOOD       "    "  FOOD PRODUCTS/FEEDING 
        "      "     SUPPLIES     "    "  SUPPLY   
        "      "VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT  "  VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR 
        "      " STAFFING & PROCEDURES "  MASS CARE
        "      " MEDICAL PROBLEMS & NURSES HEALTH SERVICES
        "      " FEEDING, FOOD, FOOD DONATIONS FOOD PRODUCTS
        "      " ADMINISTRATION /AUTHORITY   ADMINISTRATION 
The above are just some of the most common places where runners may
have to deliver or pick-up from. Locations and exact titles *WILL*
change but the basic departments above should prove to be adequate
in almost all cases. 
                            PROBLEMS
Besides illegible and incomplete messages one of the biggest
problems for delay, confusion, and even lost messages is when a
message requests a response and supplies from more than one
department in the same message. For example if a message reads:
TO: OAkland Red Cross Service Center      FROM: Joan Doe
    (Notice no Title)                           Shelter Manager
                                                Oakland High School
Request 20 blankets, 20 cots, 3 chairs, 30 diapers, 2 nurses, and
lunch for 80 people.
If this message were left on the SUPPLY desk for a few hours in
order for SUPPLY to act on the 3 chairs, then the other departments
would not be notified in good time or at all. The solution to this
is not always simple. This is why we ask all of you to help in
making this work by spotting possible problems *BEFORE* they arise
and bringing them to the MESSAGE CENTER MANAGER. Thanks for your
great efforts.
D.S. 10/21/89                              EARTHQUAKE OCTOBER - 1989
                HAM RADIO OPERATORS SERVING AT EAST BAY CHAPTER SITES
WB0ALN BILL     THOMAS         5025 KEANE DR.              CARMICHAEL, CA 95608
WD0FAA AARON  D MC CLURE       RT. #1 BOX 58                     ELBA, NE 68835
WA0YQM LAWRENCE J EKER, JR.    33066 MARSH HAWK RD.        UNION CITY, CA 94587
N1CKM  WAYNE W SANTOS          2508 BENEVUE ST.              BERKELEY, CA 94704
KB1GY  THEODORE R TOUW         37139 DENNING TER, 3000        FREMONT, CA 94536
WA1MCO MICHAEL P BUDIANSKY     P.O. BOX 4483                 BERKELEY, CA 94704
W1ZF   JOSEPH L LEVIT          8633 ARBOR DR.              EL CERRITO, CA 94530
K2BIO  DONALD R POMPLUN        521 VAN BUREN PLACE          SAN RAMON, CA 94583
KB2SS  KENNETH P KAHN          2104 G DECATUR ST              ALAMEDA, CA 94501
KH2BD  DAVID L BECK            2105-H HOLLISTER CIRCLE        ALAMEDA, CA 94501
WA2UNP MALCOLM I RAFF          2735 ELLSWORTH ST.            BERKELEY, CA 94705
N4SCY  ROBERT A OSBAND         P.O. BOX 641            CAPE CANAVERAL, FL 32920
KC5A   RODNEY S BARNES         7630 CARLOW WAY                 DUBLIN, CA 94568
DL5KR/6 MANFRED BESTER         1636 M. L. KING JR. WY APT L  BERKELEY, CA 94709   
KA5LGC EDWIN E GOEI            1701 OXFORD ST                BERKELEY, CA 94709
KA5YDJ GORDON MCCRAW           2004-D LAKEHURST CIR           ALAMEDA, CA 94501
NI6A   DONALD   SIMON          2327 ALVA AVE.              EL CERRITO, CA 94530
WD6ACM ALLEN T. SMITH          1619 HOPKINS ST, #301         BERKELEY, CA 94707
KC6AKD KENNETH BUSCHO          1570 S. WOLFE RD             SUNNYVALE, CA 94087
KK6AM   
N6AMG  JOEL F. PALADINO        5070 HILL TOP DR.          EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803
K6APW  JAMES B JOHNSTON        1026 PERALTA AVE.               ALBANY, CA 94706
KA6ATV ROBERT A CONDOURIS      1280 WESTBROOK PLACE         LIVERMORE, CA 94550 
N6BNY  FRED KIRCHENER          27752 LA PORTE AVE             HAYWARD, CA 94545
N6BQR  DONALD D HESTER,II      P.O. BOX 2233                LIVERMORE, CA 94550
KA6BTU CLIFFORD E SIMES        P.O. BOX 906                     DIXON, CA 95620
WA6CFI ROBERT W WEISHAR        5936 RANGER WAY             CARMICHAEL, CA 95608
WD6CJC SARGENT M O'BOYLE       2951 15th ST.                SAN PABLO, CA 94806
W6CPO  LARRY KAYE              764 LISBOA                WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
KJ6CS  ROBERT P TIDD           30 EL VERANO                    ORINDA, CA 94563
K6CSL  BERT H COOK             3249 LOGAN ST.                 OAKLAND, CA 94601
W6CUS  THE EAST BAY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB  P.O. BOX 1393      EL CERRITO, CA 94530
KC6DHQ BERNARD BERNSTEIN       1532 MERCED ST                RICHMOND, CA 94804
WB6DOB JOE LEE                 1285 MC DONALD DR.              PINOLE, CA 94564
N6DRT  DAVID B TYLER           731 ADAMS ST.                   ALBANY, CA 94706
WD6DXW WILBUR F THOMAS         5341 THOMAS RD.             SEBASTOPOL, CA 95472
KC6EBQ
N6EEG  DONALD R STIVER         1649 ROGER COURT            EL CERRITO, CA 94530
WD6EEK PETER C ROBERTSON       2709 ANZA AVE.                   DAVIS, CA 95616
KB6EJL JOHN C JORDON           834 SANTA BARBARA RD          BERKELEY, CA 94707
KJ6EP  GREGORY A BASSETT       141 SOBRANTE COURT             FREMONT, CA 94536
KB6EPG BILL HOCKINS            29 AUGUSTA CT                    ALAMO, CA 945O7
N6ERR  ROBERT H MC CLELLAND    175 W SEAVIEW DR               BENECIA, CA 94510
K6EUR  GERALD D MC GLATHERY    1949 MAGNOLIA WAY         WALNUT CREEK, CA 94595
WA6EUZ PAUL MASON              P.O. BOX 541                  RICHMOND, CA 94805
KC6EVQ
WD6EYE JOSEPH E SILVA          39931 CEDAR BLVD. 302           NEWARK, CA 94560
WD6EZC CONTRA COSTA COMMUNICATION CLUB P.O. BOX 661         SAN PABLO, CA 94806
W6FDJ  ROGER L WIXSON          6364 MYSTIC ST.                OAKLAND, CA 94618
N6FER  WILLIAM MORESI          134 PULIDO RD                 DANVILLE, CA 94526
WA6FFV AL WINTERS              5900 BURLINGAME AVE           RICHMOND, CA 94804
KB6FFG BRUCE D HUNT            1383 BERG COURT              PITTSBURG, CA 94565
W6FNY  DON KIBLER              744 35TH ST                   RICHMOND, CA 94805
N6FPC  KENNETH R MORRIS        824 TROTTER COURT         WALNUT CREEK, CA 94596
WD6FTM SAM MASON               5027 #D SAN PABLO DAM AVE  EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803
N6FTX  WILLIAM E VAUGHAN       17 EMBARCADERO COVE            OAKLAND, CA 94606
N6FYV  CONSTANCE M FREITAS     8600 MILL STATION RD        SEBASTOPOL, CA 95472
N6FYX  MICHAEL J WAGNER        P.O. BOX 24                   GLENDORA, CA 91740
WX6G   JOHN T MARKEY           8176 VIA ZAPATA                 DUBLIN, CA 94568
WB6GBQ CRAIG MORAN             4008 ALTAMONT                  OAKLAND, CA 94605
WD6GGC JOHN  BILLONES          1416 LAWRENCE ST.           EL CERRITO, CA 94530
KA6GQW AARON T BARSTIS         3228 ARCHWOOD RD            SACRAMENTO, CA 95821
N6GRF  GEORGE R GATHERS        1212 HARVEST RD             PLEASANTON, CA 94566
N6GWL  RUSSELL E BANKSON       P.O. BOX 1161                  ALAMEDA, CA 94501
N6HEW GLEN T. CAINE          5957 E. PONTIAC WAY             FRESNO, CA 93727 
KA6HLH CHARLIE O MC GOWAN      565 SHEPHERD                   HAYWARD, CA 94544
N6HMI  STEVEN A CRAWFORD       2335 DWIGHT WAY, #103         BERKELEY, CA 94704
WB6HPA FREDERICK S LEIF        1390 QUEENS RD                BERKELEY, CA 94708
N6HSV  GEORGE PANAGIOTOPOULOS  4349 KIRKHAM ST          SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94122
KB6HWC WILLIAM 'BILL' YEARGAIN 1616 OAKVIEW DR.             ROSEVILLE, CA 95648
W6IAP  RICHARD L THOMPSON      3571 BODEGA COURT           SACRAMENTO, CA 95825
WB6IIV FRANCIS  ROGUE          2537 FARNSWORTH DR           LIVERMORE, CA 94550
N6IIW  RICHARD F FISH          173 WADI RUN                  HERCULES, CA 94547
N6IPE  DONALD MELCHER          1880 GARDEN TRACT RD          RICHMOND, CA 94801
KA6IVF JIM HOUSE               P.O. BOX 3444             WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
KB6IVP CHARLES C FETTERMAN     632 DOVER WAY                LIVERMORE, CA 94550
WB6IZE GERALD T WHITE          8455 PINE HILLS DR             OAKLAND, CA 94611
WD6J   WILMER R RICHARDS       9435 OLYMPIA FIELDS DR       SAN RAMON, CA 94583
N6JGC  CHRISTOPHER F WONG      10944 SAN PABLO AVE, #512   EL CERRITO, CA 94530
N6JNK  DOUGLAS CAIN            6606 BLAKE ST               EL CERRITO, CA 94530
K6JNW  ART ANDERSON            3546 QUAIL AVE           CASTRO VALLEY, CA 94546
N6JRF  JOHN T MELVILLE         15311 DERMOODY AVE         SAN LORENZO, CA 94580
W6JRZ  GRAEME P WELCH          1020 OXFORD ST.               BERKELEY, CA 94707
KB6JZM KIT CHANTAROTWONG       800 MAISON WAY                RICHMOND, CA 94804
K6KIF  CARL L GILMORE          1220 102nd AVE                 OAKLAND, CA 94603
N6KM   KENNETH S MC TAGGART    272 4th ST., #E                 SONOMA, CA 95476
N6KMK  BARRETT C JENNINGS      2516 SIMAS AVE                  PINOLE, CA 94564
N6KMH  CARL F. VALDROW         1136 PRINCETON PL               DAVIS.  CA 95616
KB6LBS EDWARD PLUMMER       12460 E. HEATHER                CLOVIS, CA 93612
WB6LFD EARL S. MEAD            4275 SLOAN  DR.        NORTH HIGHLANDS, CA 95660
WB6LFW WOODROW S MERTENS       1850 SAN PEDRO AVE            BERKELEY, CA 94707
N6LGB  SCOTT  THOMAS, JR.      1574 HOYTT DR                  CONCORD, CA 94521
KB6LHR RACHEL E LEWELLEN       6337 KENSINGTON AVE           RICHMOND, CA 94805
AA6LQ  EDMOND NG               1086 EAGLE COURT              HERCULES, CA 94547
KI6MG  JAMES W BLOOM           3663 MAY RD                   RICHMOND, CA 94803
KG6MH  RICHARD R MARTINEZ      3268 SAN MARCO WAY          UNION CITY, CA 94587
N6MNL  ROBBY ROBINSON          P.O. BOX 724               EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803
N6MPH  ORLIN K WING            6502 HITCHCOCK WAY          SACRAMENTO, CA 95823
N6MUG  JAMES D CRAVEN          2954 CHEYENNE AVE            SAN RAMON, CA 94583
N6MYF  JEFFREY H HALL          1325 WHITTER DR                  DAVIS, CA 95616
WB6NER DAVID F OTEY            6212 HILLEGASS AVE             OAKLAND, CA 94618
WA6NIL JAMES M LOMASNEY        2501 WAVERLY ST.             PALO ALTO, CA 94301
WB6NLL WILLIAM C WELLS         3879 BAYVIEW CIRCLE            CONCORD, CA 94520
WA6ODB PHILLIP G WONG          3014 NICOL AVE                 OAKLAND, CA 94602
N6OFT  MICHAEL J PAYNE         6860 NARROWGAUGE WAY        SACRAMENTO, CA 95823
WA6OGA MICHAEL J ALLEN         646 CHASE COURT              LIVERMORE, CA 94550  
N6OFT  MICHEAL PAYNE           9105 WESTCLIFF LN            FAIR OAKS, CA 95628
KB6OH  JAMES H DAVIS           2596 MONTGOMERY AVE            CONCORD, CA 94519
N6OJY  CRAIG A SHARP           112 PLOV WAY                   VALLEJO, CA 94590
N6OLD  WILLIAM J KAISER        346 LAKEVILLE CIRCLE          PETALUMA, CA 94952
KB6OLL KYLE S NODERER          1111 J ST                        DAVIS, CA 95616
KB6OOX VERNE  ORME             801 PAYNE CT                  RICHMOND, CA 94806 
N6OUC MICHAEL P. BLENDERMAN  1660 3RD ST                    CONCORD, CA 94519  
WB6OVV ROY HENDRICKS           7417 PARK VISTA             EL CERRITO, CA 94530
N6PAW  GARY D EVANS            4532 ROBERT WAY               RICHMOND, CA 94803
WB6PCH RONALD L RAUCH          P.O. BOX 1222             ROHNERT PARK, CA 94928
N6PLE STEPHEN E. ORMAN       575 N. YOSEMITE AVE             FRESNO. CA 93728
NH6PM  JAMES E RICHARDSON, JR. 2871 DELTA MT HOOD CIRCLE  CONCORD, CA 94519
W6PSH  BERT STRONG             2724 MCMORROW RD             SAN PABLO, CA 94806     
N6PXY  ROBERT BOWMAN           1395 EASTMAN                  PETALUMA. CA 94952
KJ6PU  PATRICIA A THALER       5025 KEANE DR               CARMICHAEL, CA 95608
N6QGN  PETER J TORMEY          3721 LINCOLN AVE, #E           OAKLAND, CA 94602
N6QHF  SHIRLEY G MC GLATHERY   1949 MAGNOLIA WAY         WALNUT CREEK, CA 94595
KJ6QO  JEFF HERBSTER           56 E ROTARY WAY                VALLEJO, CA 94591
N6QOG  ALAN J VINCENTI         1147 ENOS                      VISALIA, CA 93291
KB6QPO WILLIAM D NANCE         1619 HOPKINS ST, #301         BERKELEY, CA 94707
KB6QVO CLYDE L CHAPMAN         1508 MEADOW RD         WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95691
W6QWK  SYDNEY C FURMAN         396 TEDDY DR                UNION CITY, CA 94587
N6RAL  CHRISTOPHER J MARLEY    808 NINTH  DR.                 VALLEJO, CA 94591
N6RCQ  FRED W BURGER           303 ARDMORE AVE              ROSEVILLE, CA 95678
N6RDH  KEVIN W AMEY       7526 COSTA MESA CIR, #122   NORTH HIGHLANDS, CA 95660
N6REJ  TROY T HALL             8209 RFD 234               TERRA BELLA, CA 93270
N6RFZ  ALLEN D BOND            20 IRWIN WAY, #515              ORINDA, CA 94563
W6RGG  ROBERT B VALLIO         18655 SHEFFIELD RD       CASTRO VALLEY, CA 94546
N6RMW  ROBERT L PHILLIPS       1508 PLUMERIA DR            SANTA ROSA, CA 95403
N6RBQ  JOHN M QUINN,IV         4407 MARSH ELDER COURT         CONCORD, CA 94521
WY6S   BRENT A CORBIN          2989 NORTH WOODS                ORANGE, CA 92665
WA6SDA LEONARD M IVARSON       883 WALL ST                  LIVERMORE, CA 94550
KA6SHE PETER PERATA            50 CORA COURT             WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
N6SNO  FRANK J RESHKE III      6910 21ST ST                SACRAMENTO, CA 95822
KA6SOC SUSAN LUDEMANN          6815 DELMONTE                 RICHMOND, CA 94805
W6SOT  ROGER J KRAUTKREMER     3508 GRESHAM COURT          PLEASANTON, CA 94566
N6SPY  ROBERT C HUGHES         238 SAN CARLOS AVE          EL CERRITO, CA 94530
N6SVD  EDWIN F DIEMER          11528 BETLEN DR                 DUBLIN, CA 94568
N6SXT  BRIAN K SHIRATSUKI      2324 DWIGHT WAY, #315         BERKELEY, CA 94704
N6SZQ  JAMES W RICH            8528 SUN FLOIN DRIVE        SACRAMENTO, CA 95828
N6TCT  PHILLIP D LAPSLEY       2479 VIRGINA ST, #D           BERKELEY, CA 94709
N6TDJ  BRIAN C ROLLEY          4337 SILVA ST                  ANTIOCH, CA 94509
WA6TGF RONALD J KANE           3679 CANELLI COURT          PLEASANTON, CA 94566
KI6TH  NOLAND K SMITH          39  ORINDA COURT             PITTSBURG. CA 94565
K6TI   CARSON C TAYLOR         48 MARIPOSA COURT             DANVILLE, CA 94526
N6TIQ  RICHARD D WILCOX        129 DELTA CIRCLE               VALLEJO, CA 94589
N6TMV  BARBARA BOWMAN          1395 EASTMAN                  PETALUMA, CA 94952  
N6TQS  DOUG FAUNT, JR.         390 ALCATRAZ AVE               OAKLAND, CA 94618
KB6TRM ROGER LAUREL            3119 SOUTH HAMPTON #33        RICHMOND, CA 94806
N6TWW  MICHAEL E FELDER        7137 CANDLELIGHT WAY    CITRUS HEIGHTS, CA 95621
K6TYF  JOHN C MACKINNON        P.O. BOX 335               SAN LORENZO, CA 94580
KI6TZ  STEVEN R WOOD           3737 ROCKY MOUNTAIN COURT   PLEASANTON, CA 94566
K6TZB  (W6TZB???)
KI6UF  JOHN B WINANS           3960 ANNABELLE AVE           ROSEVILLE, CA 95678
N6UGO  JAMES L WHITE           6347 SORRELL COURT      CITRUS HEIGHTS, CA 95621
N6UGP  BRIAN D MAHAFFY         7415 BESTOW WAY             SACRAMENTO, CA 95842
KD6UL  RICK TAFT               5436 TANDEM LANE           EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803     
N6UMC  VINCE MIGLIORE          P.O. BOX 750415               PETALUMA, CA 94975
N6UMG  LAYTON M "RED" BRYANT   4441 SAN PABLO DAM RD      EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803
N6UTX  ROBERT A WILLIAMS       265 SOUTHWIND DR         PLEASANT HILL, CA 94523
KG6UV  FRANK W LARA            8789 LEMM RD                    DURHAM, CA 95938
N6UVQ  JUDITH A LEVESQUE       P.O. BOX 2309                   NOVATO, CA 94948
N6UVR  RICHARD A LEVESQUE      P.O. BOX 2309                   NOVATO, CA 94948
N6UYB  JACK FOSTER             3213 STONY POINT RD         SANTA ROSA, CA 95401   
WB6UYJ BERNIE L BACOM          2017 SUTTER AVE              SAN PABLO, CA 94806
KA6UZV CRAIG CONLEY            21071 GARY DR #210       CASTRO VALLEY, CA 94546
N6VCR  
N6VHH  DIANNE BROOKS           1339 MONTEGO #70          WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
N6VHI  MICHAEL BROOKE          1339 MONTEGO #70          WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
N6VIF  EDGEL "SAM" WATSON      3330 MORNINGSIDE DR        EL SOBRANTE, CA 94803
N6VIX
N6VJL  BOB DISILVERIO          6 COMMODORE DR  #427        EMERYVILLE, CA 94608
N6VKK  DUDLEY BABCOCK          422 NAPA ST                  SAUSALITO, CA 94965 
N6VMK  STEVEN J DORST          42 THE PLAZA DR               BERKELEY, CA 94705
N6VOM  RICK  MUSE              1024 KEY ROUTE BLVD             ALBANY, CA 94706
W6VOM  JOHN R SHAWVER          26323 DODGE AVE                HAYWARD, CA 94545
N6VYX
W6VTJ  LARRY J MARKS           1403 GLENDALE AVE             BERKELEY, CA 94708
NU6W   GORDON E PARSONS        27808 MANON AVE, #9            HAYWARD, CA 94544
KI6WA  MATTHEW JOHNSON         1021 SOLANO AVE # 11            ALBANY, CA 94706
KA6WAG ROBERT M DORSEY         632 ALHAMBRA LANE             MARTINEZ, CA 94533
N6WBL  JASON 
N6WDV  RANDY KIELICH           P.O. BOX 9262                 BERKELEY, CA 94709
KI6WF  DAVID PUGATCH           738 WILDCAT CANYON RD         BERKELEY, CA 94708
KA6WFR JENNIFER L MC NARY      2336 WEBSTER ST               BERKELEY, CA 94705
WB6WOC LENARD R TRUELSEN       C/O RON KANE 3679 CANELLI CT PLEASANTON CA 94566
KB6WZT RICHARD W EITTREIM      3499 ASTORIA CIRCLE          FAIRFIELD, CA 94533
WK6X   ROBERT J SHERWOOD       3740 CARRIGAN COMMON         LIVERMORE, CA 94550
KT6Y   JAY D CALDIS            2890 GRANDE CAMINO        WALNUT CREEK, CA 94598
WB6YBA GARY F POTTER           302 FONTONETT AVE            LIVERMORE, CA 94550
KI6YK  GEORGE P JONES          325 GLEN ARMS DR              DANVILLE, CA 94526  
KI6YQ  DOROTHY M DUNCAN        2521 2ND ST                      CERES, CA 95307
N6ZA   STANLEY R POLAND        2554 MONTGOMERY AVE            CONCORD, CA 94519
WB6ZQZ ALAN K BIOCCA           5027 SWEETWOOD DR             RICHMOND, CA 94803
N7CTJ  RICHARD SMITH           P.O. BOX 60433                    RENO, NV 89506  
W7SW   SCOTT M RATHJEN         1765 SHAMROCK AVE          SANTA CLARA, CA 95051
KA9QMF CAROL MAJOR             234 SEAWIND DR                 VALLEJO, CA 94590
KA0SHO SCOTT E. WALTERS        2000-F KOLLMAN CIRCLE          ALAMEDA, CA 94501

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